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Front and Rear Differential fluid R&R

If you or anyone gives a smart comment for me to get a owners manual so I will know how or what to do , others will see what You are. Do you want people joining this club or not?
OK, now for my $.02 :LOL: .

This forum is the best and with the best members and base of knowledge for our Avalanches. I've been taken to other forums from a search on general topics and some of the replies from some of those members ARE just rude and inconsiderate. I cringe just reading them. In my 2 1/2 years here I have never seen a reply that isn't respectful or helpful. Usually more helpful than I would expect with very detailed write-ups, photos, copies of factory wiring diagrams and factory troubleshooting procedures which takes some personal time to share on their part. Thank you guys!

Sometimes a question can be quickly and more accurately answered with a link to the info or product without having to look up a lot of details regarding numerous part numbers, manufactures, specs, suppliers etc. and avoiding a typo while replying that would provide the wrong information.

As mentioned in the post above: Unfortunately, tone and intent are things that are extremely difficult to gauge in written form. This is so true and something I always consider so not to offend or be easily offended by. Every member here is just trying to be helpful and respectfully so.
 
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OK, now for my $.02 :LOL: .

This forum is the best and with the best members and base of knowledge for our Avalanches. I've been taken to other forums from a search on general topics and some of the replies from some of those members ARE just rude and inconsiderate. I cringe just reading them. In my 2 1/2 years here I have never seen a reply that isn't respectful or helpful. Usually more helpful than I would expect with very detailed write-ups, photos, copies of factory wiring diagrams and factory troubleshooting procedures which takes some personal time to share on their part. Thank you guys!

Sometimes a question can be quickly and more accurately answered with a link to the info or product without having to look up a lot of details regarding numerous part numbers, manufactures, specs, suppliers etc. and avoiding a typo while replying that would provide the wrong information.

As mentioned in the post above: Unfortunately, tone and intent are things that are extremely difficult to gauge in written form. This is so true and something I always consider so not to offend or be easily offended by. Every member here is just trying to be helpful and respectfully so.
And now we all know the importance of those childish emoji's, right? 🤨 🥳:cheers:
 
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Years (decades) ago long before 2002 what is called the G80 diff (was called the 14bolt full floater Gov-loc diff waaaaayyy back then in the 70's), used a dino oil with friction modifier. With the use of the semi-synth's or full synth's, is this still necessary?

Yeah, I could reach over 18" to my left and leaf through my Chilton manual or go outside and get my owners manual, or hit up the service section e-manual right here but, but, but, since I'm sitting here typing and I'm not in a hurry for the info and it seems answering questions enables and encourages involvement here in the forum I figured I'd do a public service and just ask... ;)😙
 
no additive required since the g80 does not have a clutch but has pins that engage when rear wheel speed is different and under 20mph.
 
Is this the same type of gov-lock I had in the stone age? I've seen the modern picture and the fly weight looks the same..

I guess that explains why when mine engages it's instantaneous and really hard-hitting.

My old one engaged slowly in comparison, but locked just as tight, maybe that was due to the 39" tires?

I'll get around to removing the cover sometime this spring (I hope). I still have my 78 GMC service manuals to compare to. Otherwise it's just 40 year old memories.
 
Over the years, I have owned many different types and styles of vehicles.

Back in the day, sports cars, especially Z-28s, Trans AMs and Corvettes were my preferred vehicles.

The Camaros and Trans AMs came with GM factory "limited slip differentials" which were the clutch based units that required the additional friction reducer additive to be added when the rear end gear oil was changed.

Those rear ends were fairly solid in performance and would stand up to quite a few two tire burn outs.

I never broke one and I do admit to abusing them when the situations called for it.

:drive:

What they didn't tell you back then was that type of behavior resulted in excessive rear tire wear.

Oh, the lessons learned during our youth.

:ROFLMAO:

Fast forward to more recent times, the trucks I tend to drive came from the factory with the infamous G80 limited slip differential that comes in many of our trucks.

Surprisingly, my 2004 EXT has no mention of a limited slip G80 in it's AWD rear differential set up.

That AWD vehicle has it's own way of dealing with traction using active braking, sensors, computers and other magic, but the differentials still do not use a friction modifier additive.

The G80 has a spotty reputation that is probably a bit tarnished due to driver abuse more than anything else.

As mentioned above, the G80 does not require a friction modifier additive, but rather straight gear oil of the prescribed weight.

Same for the front differentials.

Within the past year, I chose to have the entire rear end, including the gears, seals, bearings and limited slip device replaced in the rear end of my 2003 Avalanche Z-66 with the factory G80.

That truck had over 280K miles on it with no rear end failures other than the bearings being worn out.

Since both myself and the previous owner, that I know well, are not the types of drivers to abuse our equipment, the longevity of the G80 in that truck speaks to how well those rear ends can perform.

It was my choice to replace the G80 with a Detroit Truetrac® Differential.

This true limited slip differential also does not use a friction modifier additive, either.

So far, I am quite pleased with the performance of the TrueTrac and it does behave quite different from the G80.

I now have zero concerns should the need arise to apply copious amounts of throttle when both back tires have limited traction.

I feel this rear end will spin the rear tires like crazy without scattering itself all over the pavement like the G80's are known to do on occasion.

I'm not likely to do that, but I know I can if the need presents itself.

On the flip side, Youtube is full of videos of drivers that were not quite so lucky with their G80's.

But, in almost every case the driving preferences of those drivers can almost always show to be the biggest cause for rear end failure.

Some people were just born to entertain the rest of us.

:ROFLMAO:
 
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little web search gave me this nice pdf from Eaton that explains the G80:


Plenty more out there on web.
Seems people either LOVE or HATE the G80

It does use clutches I see but no modifier. Interesting, guess I wasted a lot of money on that modifier fluid back in the day then.

Actually, I'm curious to know how far back that brochure information goes. My 14 bolt axles where from the early 70's 3/4 ton square bodies or vans, 1 ton axles where too difficult for a kid like me to modify for install in my driveway. They were almost always dually rear ends back then. Not always but more often than not and the spring perches where spaced different too, as were the shock mounts. Overall just hard to do in a driveway.

Regardless, the Guv-loc system worked with tall tires and lots of horsepower for me in my river running escapes. I believe that (maybe) it would remain locked while under heavy load and then unlock at the first relaxed moment. I know my memory recalls both my tires spinning in second gear until I shifted to third (granny low second). Drifting around corners at full throttle was always a good time in a tall short box.
 
little web search gave me this nice pdf from Eaton that explains the G80:


Plenty more out there on web.
Seems people either LOVE or HATE the G80
Yup I love and hate them in snow or bad traction area it is great, but if you put lots of power at it, it will go boom.
It’s a locker not traction control, so either it locks both axles together or it's an open differential
 
I replaced my G80 with a Trutrac limited slip when I had other rear end work done and have buyers remorse. I have a sky slope for a driveway and could offen get up it in 2WD with the locker. Now I have to use 4WD to get up. Had to do all over again I would have either kept the G80 or opted for a Detroit Locker.
 
I replaced my G80 with a Trutrac limited slip when I had other rear end work done and have buyers remorse. I have a sky slope for a driveway and could offen get up it in 2WD with the locker. Now I have to use 4WD to get up. Had to do all over again I would have either kept the G80 or opted for a Detroit Locker.

A lot of members went that way when they added things like superchargers and were 2wd. They would destroy the G80 quickly
But in snow country just punch the Auto button and let it do its thing.
 
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